Perimeter solutions outlines 5-year forest service contract and signals reduced earnings volatility through structural changes

Earnings Call Insights: Perimeter Solutions (PRM) Q3 2025

MANAGEMENT VIEW

* CEO Haitham Khouri highlighted that third quarter adjusted EBITDA reached $186.3 million, attributing this to "execution on our operational value drivers with particularly strong results in our international retardant business, our suppressants markets and IMS;" increased consistency in the retardant business; and proactive initial attack strategies by customers that drove greater retardant use.
* Khouri announced the signing of a "new contract with the US Forest Service during the third quarter," describing it as "amongst the most significant in our company's history." The contract features a five-year term, lower initial-year retardant prices, expanded services, and a shift to an all-powder product footprint, which Khouri said "enhances our profitability through a lower cost and complexity manufacturing, distribution and logistics footprint."
* Khouri addressed ongoing operational and safety issues at the Sauget, Illinois Specialty Products plant, noting "significant safety events during the third quarter are of greater concern" and reiterating the company's commitment to gain operational control of the plant despite ongoing litigation.
* CFO Kyle Sable reported, "Revenue for the quarter came in at $273.4 million, reflecting a 9% year-over-year improvement," with Fire Safety adjusted EBITDA at $177.2 million, up 13% from the prior year. Sable detailed that suppressants revenue increased $12.4 million and international retardant sales grew $5.5 million from the previous year. Specialty Products segment Q3 net sales were $42.1 million, with IMS acquisitions contributing $10.8 million.

OUTLOOK

* Management stated that "our long-term assumptions are unchanged from Q2, and with normally quarterly variation, Q3 is consistent with those expectations."
* Khouri addressed the impact of the new Forest Service contract, saying, "this contract continues our positive financial momentum" and further shifts the business towards "consistency, predictability, and stability by increasing the proportion of revenue and EBITDA that comes from services and other fixed components."
* Sable reiterated, "we expect our business to remain well insulated from policy and economic shifts" and highlighted that "trade policy effects are tracking at or below our initial expectations, amounting to less than 2% of consolidated adjusted EBITDA."

FINANCIAL RESULTS

* CFO Sable stated consolidated third quarter sales grew 9% to $315.4 million, while adjusted EBITDA also improved 9% to $186.3 million. Year-to-date consolidated sales reached $550.1 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $295.7 million.
* Sable reported Q3 2025 GAAP loss per share of $0.62 and Q3 2025 adjusted EPS of $0.82. Year-to-date GAAP loss per share was $0.45, and year-to-date adjusted EPS was $1.24.
* Free cash flow for Q3 was $193.6 million, and $197 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025. Capital expenditures for the quarter were $5 million, and $12 million was invested in IMS product line acquisitions.
* Company leverage was reported at 1x net debt to LTM adjusted EBITDA, with $675 million in gross debt and $340.6 million in cash.

Q&A

* Joshua Spector, UBS: Asked about the "normal... earnings power within the Fire Safety segment" and the impact of more aggressive tactics on gallons used. Sable responded, "this year is pretty indicative of what the earnings power should be in more or less a normalized environment," but added that if acres burned increase, "that acres benefit wouldn't be as strong... because of the initial attack posture."
* Spector followed up on capacity, to which Sable said, "we definitely benefited from a more even dispersion of acres burned across both geography and timing," and Khouri added, "we were not tapped out on capacity this year and wouldn't expect to be tapped out on capacity in a stronger fire season."
* Spector: Inquired about the new USDA contract's impact on earnings for '26 versus '25. Khouri replied, "we expect to grow our various financial metrics, certainly, EBITDA in our North America fire business in a like-for-like acre season in '26, inclusive of this contract."
* Daniel Kutz, Morgan Stanley: Asked about the implications of the plan to form the U.S. Wildland Fire Service. Khouri explained, "our contract has historically and continues in the new contract to combine all 5 federal firefighting agencies into one contract," viewing the agency merger as "a material positive for the industry."
* Kutz probed on contracting strategy, prompting Khouri to state, "contracting is remarkably important...you can drive or frankly, destroy a very significant amount of value through optimal versus sloppy contracting."
* Kutz asked about the international retardants business. Khouri responded, "Our business in Europe was excellent in Q3. Our business in the Middle East was excellent in Q3. Our business in Asia was strong in Q3. And then our business in the southern hemisphere, both Australia and South America was strong in Q3."

SENTIMENT ANALYSIS

* Analysts pressed for clarity on future revenue drivers, contract impacts, and segment earnings power, with a neutral and constructive tone, focusing on operational resilience and contract strategy.
* Management maintained a confident tone in prepared remarks, frequently emphasizing "confidence," "discipline," and "momentum." In Q&A, the tone remained measured, with Khouri and Sable providing detailed explanations but acknowledging ongoing uncertainties such as litigation and seasonality. Compared to the previous quarter, management sustained a slightly more assertive tone around contract wins and business model evolution, while analysts remained focused and probing on execution details.

QUARTER-OVER-QUARTER COMPARISON

* The current quarter featured the announcement of a five-year contract with the US Forest Service, a structural shift to services revenue, and continued focus on de-risking revenue from fire seasonality. This is a progression from prior quarter commentary, which emphasized normalized wildfire activity and capital investment in facilities and M&A.
* Management tone was more confident regarding long-term contract stability and predictable cash flows, compared to the previous quarter's focus on operational execution and litigation resolution.
* Analysts' questions continued to focus on contract structure, the sustainability of results, and the impact of evolving wildfire management tactics, but with greater attention to the implications of new federal contracts and the agency merger.
* Key financial metrics improved sequentially, with higher adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS, as well as stronger free cash flow generation.

RISKS AND CONCERNS

* Management highlighted continued "substantial amount of unplanned downtime" and "significant safety events" at the Sauget, Illinois Specialty Products plant, cautioning investors to "expect a continued financial impact until this issue is resolved."
* Ongoing litigation with Flexsys was noted as a risk, with Khouri stating, "we remain fully committed to taking over the plant no matter how long it takes."
* Sable reiterated that "trade policy effects are tracking at or below our initial expectations" and that minimal government funding disruption is expected due to the essential nature of the company's products.

FINAL TAKEAWAY

Perimeter Solutions' third quarter signals a transformative period, with the new five-year US Forest Service contract marking a shift toward more stable, service-oriented revenue and reduced exposure to fire season volatility. Management emphasized disciplined execution of operational value drivers, strong international and suppressants segment growth, and resilient cash generation, while acknowledging continued challenges at the Sauget plant and ongoing litigation as key risks to monitor moving forward.

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