Marsh outlines $400M savings target through Thrive program and rebranding as Marsh

Earnings Call Insights: Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. (MMC) Q3 2025

MANAGEMENT VIEW

* John Doyle, President and CEO, stated the company had a solid third quarter, growing revenue 11% and underlying revenue 4%, as well as introducing significant strategic changes including a rebranding: "Earlier this week, we announced that we will change our brand in January from Marsh & McLennan to Marsh. Also in January, our stock ticker symbol on the New York Stock Exchange will change from MMC to MRSH."
* Doyle highlighted the launch of Business and Client Services (BCS), unifying operations and technology teams under Paul Beswick, aiming for efficiency gains: "Our new brand strategy, the creation of BCS and the efficiencies we expect to gain are core parts of a new program we call Thrive."
* The Thrive program will include automation and workforce actions, targeting $400 million in savings over three years, with $500 million in charges to achieve these efficiencies. "Over the next 3 years, we expect Thrive will generate approximately $400 million in savings with a portion being reinvested to drive additional growth. We will incur around $500 million in charges to achieve these savings."
* Doyle underscored continued investment in AI and proprietary tools such as LenAI, Aida, and Sentrisk, with the intent to boost productivity and client value.
* Mark McGivney, Senior VP & CFO, remarked, "Our third quarter results were solid, reflecting our strong position and execution despite a more challenging environment. Consolidated revenue increased 11% to $6.4 billion with underlying growth of 4%, which came despite a headwind from fiduciary interest income. Operating income was $1.2 billion, and adjusted operating income was $1.4 billion, up 13%."

OUTLOOK

* The company continues to expect mid-single-digit underlying revenue growth, solid growth in adjusted EPS, and its 18th consecutive year of reported margin expansion for 2025. Management stated, "For the full year, we continue to expect mid-single-digit underlying revenue growth, margin expansion and solid growth in adjusted EPS. Note that this outlook is based on conditions today, and the economic backdrop could be materially different than our assumptions."
* Doyle commented on the insurance and reinsurance market: "We anticipate insurance and reinsurance market conditions seen so far this year will likely continue in 2026."
* No comparison to analysts’ estimates can be made as estimates data was not provided.

FINANCIAL RESULTS

* Consolidated revenue for Q3 was $6.4 billion. Adjusted operating income rose to $1.4 billion, with an adjusted operating margin of 22.7%. GAAP EPS was $1.51, and adjusted EPS was $1.85, up 11% year over year.
* Risk & Insurance Services (RIS) reported Q3 revenue of $3.9 billion, with Marsh revenue at $3.4 billion, reflecting integration contributions from McGriff. Guy Carpenter’s revenue was $398 million.
* The Consulting segment posted Q3 revenue of $2.5 billion. Mercer’s assets under management reached $683 billion at quarter end.
* Fiduciary interest income was $109 million for the quarter, with $85 million expected in Q4.
* $400 million of stock was repurchased in the quarter.

Q&A

* Charles Peters, Raymond James: Asked about growth sustainability amid a challenging pricing environment. Doyle responded, "We guided to mid-single-digit underlying revenue growth. I like how we're positioned; I am very excited about Thrive and what that can mean for our growth over time."
* Peters followed up on the launch of a wholesale business in London. Doyle clarified, "We're not looking to build a third-party wholesale business here. We have exceptional specialty talent inside of this company... So it's a revenue synergy for us at McGriff, and we're excited about those possibilities in 2026."
* Michael Zaremski, BMO, sought detail on the cost/savings ratio of the Thrive program. McGivney said, "We've got a pretty high degree of confidence in the savings and charges, although over time, these estimates might move a little bit."
* Jamminder Bhullar, JPMorgan, asked about Oliver Wyman growth. Nicholas Studer, Vice Chair, explained, "Best quarterly growth in 6 quarters... we did benefit from some favorable timing on things like success fees."
* David Motemaden, Evercore ISI, inquired about Thrive reinvestment. Doyle answered, "The investment will also be in accelerating our AI journey as well. We've continued to invest in talent, both organically and inorganically."
* Robert Cox, Goldman Sachs, discussed international pricing sensitivity. Martin South, Vice Chair, said, "Our international growth... was 5% on top of 7% in 3Q '24 and underlying growth year-to-date is 6%."
* Brian Meredith, UBS, asked about M&A appetite. Doyle stated, "Do we have the appetite and ability to do a larger scale deal? Absolutely."

SENTIMENT ANALYSIS

* Analysts expressed cautious optimism but pressed for clarity on growth sustainability, margin expansion, and Thrive program details, reflecting a slightly positive to neutral sentiment.
* Management maintained a confident, upbeat tone in both prepared remarks and responses, using phrases like "we're confident in our ability to execute" and "we feel good about our growth."
* Compared to the previous quarter, management’s tone remained steady and confident, while analysts continued to focus on macroeconomic pressures and strategic execution.

QUARTER-OVER-QUARTER COMPARISON

* The Q3 call featured new announcements on rebranding and the launch of the Thrive program, with a specified $400 million savings target and $500 million charges over three years, which were not present in Q2.
* Q3 revenue growth slowed slightly versus Q2, while margin expansion and EPS growth continued in line with guidance.
* The focus shifted from general macroeconomic and litigation environment in Q2 to operational efficiency, AI investment, and brand consolidation in Q3.
* Analysts continued to probe on underlying growth, M&A, and operational execution, while management emphasized the potential of the Thrive program and AI to drive future value.

RISKS AND CONCERNS

* Management cited ongoing macroeconomic uncertainty, declining P&C pricing, and economic hesitancy among U.S. clients as headwinds.
* Doyle noted, "It feels like a pretty uneven economy to me... but we're not pessimistic about growth."
* The company is exposed to declining fiduciary interest income and market competition, particularly in property and reinsurance rates.
* Charges associated with Thrive and McGriff integration present near-term financial impacts.

FINAL TAKEAWAY

Marsh & McLennan Companies is embarking on a significant transformation with a rebranding to Marsh, the rollout of the Thrive efficiency program targeting $400 million in savings, and continued investment in AI and talent. Leadership remains confident in sustaining mid-single-digit underlying revenue growth and margin expansion, even as the company navigates a complex macroeconomic environment and shifting industry dynamics.

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